![]() That's a lot of fancy words, but it doesn't actually justify the position you're taking. Or, more accurately, the role of luck in Texas Hold'em has already finished playing its part once the river card comes out. The question "Is Stratego a game of chance?" is not the same as "Is Stratego a game of perfect, open information?" It's predictable to an outside observer who knows the strategies that both players have chosen. It doesn't have to be predictable by the active player. When the active player attacks an unknown piece, the result is not predictable by them. Without knowing him, I suspect he would attribute his loss to a lack of skillful play on his part, rather than particularly skillful play on your part.īut why don't you just ask him, as I suggested in the first place? Tl dr your definition of luck is too narrow. balancing your range), and if Villain happens to pick a theoretically sound 25% bluff in an instance where you have the goods, then you got lucky. There is an element of chance as to what will happen from the decision maker's perspective, even though things are deterministic for an omniscient being.īy your logic, there is no luck in Texas Hold'em post-river, because all hole cards are known by at least one player and there are no future cards to come = no chance/luck by your narrow definition.Įxcept that's abjectly false, because game theory optimal play (in some instances) involves performing different actions with varying probabilities under identical circumstances (i.e. It's a guessing game at that point, and guessing involves luck, per the "guess odd or even" game. Any given setup is strategically equivalent in substance to its mirror. Do you think he would say I got lucky or attribute my win to better skill? I've bested 3x US Champion GM Larry Christiansen in a simultaneous Chess exhibit, despite having a sub-1800 ELO, solely because he hung his Queen. So if we play a game where you write down a hidden number and I guess whether it's odd or even, then luck doesn't play a role? Literally every aspect of Stratego is the direct and predictable result of an active decision and agency from a player. There's a lot more strategy to Stratego than flipping a coin, but to say there's no randomness is just wrong. Thus, it's not "luck," but the clear and predictable result of a choice. It did not "happen" to be there, it was willfully placed there by the opponent. Your error is in believing that his flag just "happened" to be there. if you clear your opponent's left corner first, and his flag happens to be there, you got "lucky." ![]() You won't, because there isn't - and I prefer to trust experts over you.Į.g. The next time a chess grandmaster makes a blunder, ask them if they got "unlucky," and they will scoff at you.įind me a single chess master who says that there is any luck in chess. ![]() Making a mistake (or having an opponent that makes a mistake) is not "luck," it's playing a poor strategy. This is false, if the "hidden information" is hidden by the opponent (who knows the information).Įven in something like chess (where information is perfect), grandmasters will occasionally blunder, and if you happen to be in the right place at the right time, luck can play a role. Where a die ends up landing, which card ends up on top of a deck after a shuffle, etc.Īny time there is incomplete information in a game, luck will play a role. "Chance" is when something occurs that is completely outside of either player's control. You don't know what "luck" or "chance" means.
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